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  • Hi Devo, how goes?

    I’ve created a page for Hell, as all of those redlinks were bothering me. For now I’ve tagged it as a stub, but I’d like your opinion on whether it actually needs to be expanded. It could turn into an enormous essay, but I just stuck to the main point of it being a Christian thing.

    Let me know what you think,

    Fil

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    • I had a Hell page on MCW, but I kept that pretty basic too. If you want to avoid making it an enormous essay, I suppose you could just add a list of significant Hell interpretations that might deserve their own pages, like Dante's depiction of Hell perhaps?

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    • Now that MCW’s gone do you remember what you wrote, or feel like redoing it? You’re right about Purgatory though, I must have picked that up from the Sandman books. Like I said, I was just trying to get shot of the multitude of redlinks. I think a short page here would suffice, but my attention is mostly elsewhere.

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    • I think this will do for now. I don't think expanding it is a priority.

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  • Hi Devo, how goes?

    Could you check the Ork page for categories and try to add them? I’ve done it a couple of times, but the tags just don’t seem to stick in either editor (although they show up in visual). I’m sure we had this problem before, but I can’t remember how we fixed it. Thanks,

    Fil

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    • I've taken a crack at it and the gallery section came up in code in edit mode, so I thought that might have something to do with it. I deleted the gallery and now the categories appear just fine, although in edit mode the category list seems... broken. There's multiple repeats of the same tags on there which can't seem to be removed.

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    • I’m just going to leave it sans gallery. It looks fine, and the categories show up ok for me now. Thanks for doing that.

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  • hi devo!

    you were a recommeded to write to by TheSmoog78 . can you help me write a proper page? I am just trying to be a great wiki person and can't seem to do ANYTHING right! please help me !

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    • I'm guessing by your writing style and your lack of favourite wikis on your user page that you're new to this. Well, I think the best way I can help you here is to give you a little step-by-step guide on wiki editing.

      1)Think about what content you want to add. If you're adding a new page, check first to see that there isn't already an existing article on that subject. If there is, read it first before adding or changing anything and think about whether or not it really needs changing. Also, only create pages on subjects you're familiar with. For example, I'm a big fan of the Resident Evil games, I know the subject well and so I've added loads of pages relating to that. But I don't know squat about the SCP Foundation, so I've not touched any of the SCP pages here.

      2) Spelling and grammar. I noticed quite a few misspellings in your edits and you don't seem to use capitals when you start new sentences. That's got to change because no one wants to read an article that's poorly written.

      3) Headings and paragraphing. Make sure you separate groups of sentences into easy-to-read chunks. You don't want your page to just be a massive wall of text, it looks ugly and no one will want to read it. And make sure the article is properly divided into different headings. For example, I'm making a page on a particular character, I'll write a short paragraph describing where the character comes from, then add a heading like "Appearance" before describing how that character looks, after which I'll add another heading like "Biography" and write down that character's history.

      4) Pictures are always a good thing to add to a page, but in MODERATION. Don't just slap a new picture onto every new paragraph you write because too many pictures will just turn the page into a complete mess. Also, while the edit menu gives the option of having pictures located in the centre of the page, that only really works if you have a centred image at the top of the page before you write anything, and for the most part no one here does that anyway. We prefer to keep images on the right side of the page with the occasional left-sided image.

      5) Adding categories. When you make a page, PLEASE remember to add categories, but be careful. There's already loads of established categories and the only new ones I can think of that would be needed at this point are categories for a specific subject, eg. a movie franchise or video game. You should check with me or Smoog before adding any new categories.

      6) Making minor edits just to get achievement badges. DON'T DO IT. It's silly but there have been numerous cases where users have made the smallest of edits, like change a single letter, to get a badge, and then undo that change straight after. For those of us who watch those pages, it's REALLY annoying to get e-mail notifications on an edited page only to find that nothing looks any different.

      7) Copying content from other sources. This is generally frowned upon, although I understand that writing decent articles can be a long process and you may have better things to do with your time. Still, if you're having trouble writing all your own content, copying a few sentences from another source can be overlooked. But copying an entire article word for word won't be stood for, there's got to be SOME original content in every page.

      And with that, I think we're done. It might seem like a lot to take in, but this is really the only way I can think of to help. I can't physically be there to look over your shoulder while you write so all I can do is offer these guidelines and leave the rest up to you. I hope this was helpful to you. Happy editing!

      Devo

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  • Thanks for the quick start, it’s really appreciated,

    Fil

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  • Hi Devo, how goes?

    As you might have noticed, I’ve been going through the D&D Category to add the Traditional Games one, and I’ve noticed that there are a hell of a lot of redlinks on these pages. As I’ve not played that game in around 25 years (it was my first RPG!) and I sold all of my books off at Claymore a year or two before that, there’s really nothing I can do about those links (I don’t really remember much about the game if I’m honest, except for the fact that to get the right type of dice was an absolute nightmare back then).

    If I push really hard, I might be able to find a friend or two with the odd bestiary or something, but even then it’s not a topic I’ve got a great deal of interest in these days.

    So now I come to the point. Is there any chance you could write up a brief article or two every week or so, just to chip into the Reds a little? Redlinks are something I’m trying to cut down on here (along with the stubs and PTNH), because there are just so many of them. I know that this isn’t currently your “primary” wiki, but anything you could manage, even writing the odd redlink into a stub, would help.

    Anyway, I hope this message finds you well,

    Fil

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    • I was planning on doing more DnD entries eventually. I'll make a start soon.

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    • Thanks, it would really make a difference, because at the moment, our redlinks are running into the thousands (I’m not exaggerating). I’m trying to knock off one or two every time I come to add, but I just don’t seem to be getting anywhere.

      I’m thinking about deleting the pages on the various pantheons of Gods too, simply because there are so many redlinks to minor Gods that’ll likely never get done. Not the mythical creatures associated with them, only the actual Gods themselves. Let me know what your thoughts on that would be.

      Another thing I’ve been wondering about is putting up a warning on the front page, just to say that although Monster contains things like Pokémon and Sonic, it also has more disturbing material like the Cenobites and Silent Hill stuff. I’m not sure if this is an actual requirement from Wikia, but it’d be good to cover ourselves on the off chance. Again, let me know,

      Fil

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  • Hi Devo, how goes?

    Just a quick message to say that I came across this page earlier today, and there seemed to be a problem with the image. I’ve checked back a couple of times, and there’s still just an “add image” marker. I didn’t want to do anything with it since it’s one of your Guyver series, just thought I’d let you know.

    Fil

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    • Sorry, I didn't really have an appropriate image to put with that page. I'll remove the marker.

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    • I just thought that it’d been an image that Wikia had been asked to globally remove, is all.

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  • Do you think this wiki could use a clown category?

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  • Hey Devo, how goes?

    Even although you’re not very active here just now (which I completely understand, we’ve all got real lives to live), I wanted to send you this message to say that I’m planning on trying to get Monster Wiki out to a larger audience. Here are a couple of ideas I’ve got for doing this.

    1) Opening us back up to non-logins. I know it’ll take up a bit of time, but I feel we lose a lot by being a fairly low-level Wiki with a generalised title, but just a few fairly specific lines.

    2) Customising Badges. Again, I know that this is a fairly minor field, but most of the big Wikis have them, and I feel it gives a user a sense of doing something fairly original (I’ve already started on this). I was also thinking about creating some unique Badge lines, such as Resident Evil and Cthulhu Mythos, but those will be a little further down the line (if you don’t know what I mean, make a few edits on the Cryptidz Wiki, they’ve got hundreds). Obviously, I won’t make a badge track on one of your specialities (RE, Mario, Guyver, etc.) without you prior consent.

    3) Blog posting on some other similar sites, with links to us (I know it sounds basic, but anything to get some decent editors interest).

    4) Linking us in to a Facebook group or two. Again, it sounds basic, but as far as I know, it’s not something Monster Wiki has ever done before.

    5) Polls. I now know how to create a poll, so maybe we should have an “Article of the Month” on the front page, and a poll each month to determine next months one.

    These are just a couple of ideas, if you have any more, let me know.

    In other news, the last few weeks we’ve had between 40K and 44K visitors each week (last week we got 44.9K), which is a lot better than the 11-15 we got when I first became an Admin. As of writing, we sit at 41K views for the previous week. I reckon that that’s fairly awesome for a couple of guys who rarely see eye to eye, but have managed to hold such a diverse wiki together.

    I’m also planning on writing a style guide and a rules page for here. I know I said I’d do it ages ago, but I think I’m just going to skim some of the big Wiki’s rules and take what we need from them. After all, there’s no substitute for experience.

    One last thing, I know we’ve never bothered about it before, but badge hunting is really bothering me now. I have no problems with people who add or delete a mistaken space or character here and there, but people who consistently do no more than add a single character to a page for the specific purpose of making their daily edit really bothers me now. With your permission, I’d like to start cracking down on that.

    Anyway, I hope this (long) message finds you well,

    Fil

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    • 1) I personally think that's a bad idea. Speaking from experience, the vast majority of non-login users are just vandals who make a mess of the place.

      2) I've personally never cared about the whole Fandom badge system. Do whatever you want regarding badges.

      3) If you know of any sites similar to this, give it a shot.

      4) I made a Facebook group for the MCW and for Robot Supremacy, but they didn't really attract any attention. Maybe I just wasn't branching out enough, but if you think you can draw more folk in, then by all means.

      5) Like with badges, I've not ever really bothered with polls.



      Sorry if I'm not contributing much to the decision-making process, but these aren't things I've really considered much in my time as a wiki-builder (which might explain the lack of interest in the wikis I've made). Maybe I'm just not a good admin, my forte is building up content and keeping it secure from trolls and vandals with an undo here and a block there, not worrying about publicity or popularity.

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  • Are there any articles that could use some pictures?

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  • Hey Devo, how goes?

    I’ve created a category for Traditional Games, and was wondering about your thoughts on keeping RPG Monsters as a separate category. Personally, I think it should stay, but as a sub-category. As this category is filled with your guys though, I wanted to run it past you before I did anything.

    I’ve also created Metropolises as a sub for Monster Habitats, to cover cities and the like. There’s only one thing in it just now, but I’ve got ideas for a couple more in the near future.

    Fil

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